My own experience was the low powers scopes couldn’t be mounted far enough back for hunting with a bunch of hunting clothes. My choice was a longer scope or shortening the stock. Ended up putting a VX-1 3x9 on it as I wasn’t willing to shell out the coin for a VX3 2.5x8. I like these rifles for hunting at timber rifles when I don’t feel like packing a pump in 35Whelen around. Would never push it past a 100yds or so....