Previous owner provided paperwork on the reloads saying 49 grains of the Rl 19, so I was gonna start at about 45 grains of the H414, and see what happens, I am not a guy who likes everything hot unless you have to get there to get it to shoot right, If it is accurate at 45 there's will it will be, nothing on the receiving end will ever know the difference in a couple hundred fps. Recently I seen what a subsonic 200 grain bullet did to a whitetail out of a .308, it is not all about speed LOL If the charts are close throwing out the other variables it appears 47 - 47.5 grains of H414 would be similar to his load, but I am going to work up to that. Thanks all for all the help and ideas.