Find a mec 600 jr at gunshows or other places at +$50 . Buy 1 in each gauge you wish to reload. You can buy a whole press used for less than what the dies cost. Buy a Lyman shotshell manual and get as many powder catalogs as you can find they are usually free. The reason people quit loading is simple up till recently promo target loads were availible cheaper than buying all the components and loading your own and for most folks hunting only requires 2-3 boxes a year. I load my own and allways have what I need when I want it without getting screwed on the price. The chinks drove up the price of lead and now there are no smelters of virgin mined lead in the usa most comes from Mexico now. Mb


" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "