Thanks for the imput on this. I worked as crash rescue firefighter for 30 years and was around fighter aircraft all the time. Usually most of the time doing my job it was up close and personal when most sane people were taking a double dose of haul a$$ away from the jet. I wore hearing protection at all times but still suffered some hearing loss and don't care to lose anymore, thus my concern about the noise from an unported guide gun. I am going to shoot a friends guide gun (unported) today and am planning on shooting it once without protection to see what to expect. Again thanks for help on this.