An Auto 5 Mag 12 Stalker and any fast steel load of 1s to 4s does everything to any range I need. Sometimes my Sweet 16 with 3s/4s, and a BGH 20ga with 3/4 steel or #4 bismuth. Other than being lighter, most newer shotguns only offer me drawbacks....for all around waterfowling. Any old auto 5 has outperformed every iteration of spaghetti gun I’ve owned, used, or been near....for the last 40 years. Not likely to change now. wink