Each of the deer, northern Mn whitetails, so good body size went 75 - 100 yards from standing when shot, no exits and virtually little if any blood. the pig went and went went, shot was lower in neck just in front of shoulder. I suspect they are imploding on contact of anything just my guess, i get pass thru's with the 165 grain version in 308 norma mag. I have never run them in my 8mm, one rifle i shoot 150 grain sierras game kings and the other I shoot the old green box Remington flat nosed 170's , both of them rifles over the years have been very good at smucking whitetails. For years i have shot the 165 sst in a 300 win mag and that too was a weapon of carnage, someone said the design was changed in the bullets at some point and these 150 grainers are really old probably about when they were introduced.
