I can attest that its not a Speer, Remington or Hornady. I have run them through jugs and they perform mush better at lower velocity (short barrel and or long range) than almost any other 150 grain bullet out there. When Im choosing factory ammo for my 308s thats what I use. Its just as accurate as FGMM in every rifle I tried it in. So the question is a good one. If they offerred as a reloading component, I would buy with confidence. You can normally find it cheap too. Roughly 15.00 per box.