I lost 2 gobblers earlier this week to a Vortex Venom losing zero on my 20 gauge which was mounted on a Sumtoy protector mount. Gun had never been dropped or abused. Always taken care of in the field. It was pretty upsetting. I'm going to have to reevaluate the sight situation on that gun too. The mount Sumtoy custom made and it's for the Burris/Vortex/Docter mounting standard. So I need to find a more rugged sight for that footprint.
I think for the 12 I really want to go to an enclosed style anyway. I really think I'll end up with a Aimpoint.
