Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
If you think you don't use the barrel to shoot, and are an exceptional shot (as in uses full choke for everything exceptional,) consider this. Targets painted luminescent or glued with glow sticks slung out into a pitch black night. No lighting so you can't see the barrel. How well do you do?

I'm not good enough for my results to count but I think I'll try it anyway. Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure everyone aims with the barrel even though it's best to not focus on it.



Exceptional shots don't usually use full choke for most shotgunning, and who shoots at anything thrown into the air on a pitch black night?

Anyway, many successful shots can be made with the barrel out of focus in the peripheral, Especially clays....However, "consider this", the Dove that comes in from from behind unexpected. The Ruffed Grouse that you hear the flush and then see the Bird in your peripheral....your peripheral picks it up and you instinctively bring the gun up and fire..The Bird is centered and you never saw the barrel.. Makes no difference if you had a bead, rib or none of them the Bird is centered. And distance pretty much goes out the window also....Our personal computer instantly makes the calculations. All you did was look at the target...The more you can do that the better you will shoot. Clays or game...Barrels and sights are a necessary evil of shotgunning..Without them we would rarely miss...

Using your peripheral vision correctly is a key to good shotgunning that many don't understand..Without peripheral vision we wouldn't last long...


The exceptional shots I know use full choke for everything. Clearly I am not omnipresent, but when I see the best shots in the dove club using 20ga, choked full, I notice. I need 12ga, SK2 and most of a box of shells to hang in there.

Nobody i know shoots at anything thrown into the air on a pitch black night, but I am suggesting that if you do you will see that you needed the barrel in your peripheral to aim by. This is the point of contention here. Rather than saying to aim or not aim I am saying they're all ways of aiming. Another test is shooting from the off shoulder with both eyes open. With the non-dominant eye behind the gun your dominant eye will present a competing image. You'll aim with the wrong peripherally viewed barrel, and be too far in front or behind, even though your were trying for a hard focus on the leading edge of the target while supposedly ignoring the barrel or rib or bead.


Living in a world of G17s and 700s, wishing for P7s and 202s