Lot of good ones out there. I went with TBAC and since then, they have come out with even better options in my opinion. After a bit of trial and error, sticking with around 18" barrel length and ending up around 24" oal. For me and woods, thickets, trucks, atvs, it is just a ton handier at 24" oal. And your neighbor with windows closed probably will not know you are even shooting. Especially true with the rimfire one.