Well, If you folks refuse to see any design similarities, sorry, its beyond any ordinary guy to help you. I can talk until I'm blue in the face and it won't make the slightest difference. You will find some nit picking point, and expound upon it ad adnauseum. As K.G. said, similarities abound.
Hat guy-I mention this because you have problems sticking to the point-THE HISTORY OF WINCHESTER IS NO MYSTERY. Last I looked, this post wasn't about gold, or remington, now was it?
You took issue with written history, and with conclusions regarding relationship and fact. I've tried my best to answer you, but you just continue to wander all over the place like a drunk on sunday.
I'm really, really tired of spending time with this, it gets nowhere. You are not interested in conversation, you are interested in bickering and arguing.
Have a great day.