Thanks for the info.
I bought a pair of Zen Ray 10x40 somethings years ago and they (to my eyes) were as good as my buddies EL's. For bino use, I would not want to down grade from that but would like a good pair of range finding bino's without breaking the bank.
I have a Zeiss rangefinder now and it is kind of a pain to go back and forth between the bino's and rangefinder while hunting.


I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects

I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....