A 410grain Cast Performance WFN penetrated 15” into the end of a sawed white Birch tree. The platform was a S Blackhawk Bisley with a 4 5/8 bbl. My chrony shows the load at 1,075 FPS. It also shot thru 12” of Spruce (on the horizontal) cleanly. A carbine on a decent Marlin platform in 480 Ruger would be a kick in the pants and be a hell of a good weapon for use over bait or on point.
