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I have a loaner Marlin 30-30 shooting handloaded 160 gr FTX bullets which a young boy scout in my troop has used the last two seasons to kill 4 deer. All 4 deer died very....very quickly. The 160 FTX bullet in the primary load for this Marlin now even through I have three other loads worked up from the Sierra 125 gr HP, Speer 130 gr, and the Rem 170 gr core-lokt.