ukraine is of zero relevance to us. the russians own the black sea. we would not own the airspace in a fight with russia (or china), it would be hotly contested. who in their right mind commits to a land war against russia on the steppes in winter? what rule states that a war fought on the russian border stays there? show me a conflict when the neocons have been correct. reinstate the draft, without student deferments, for all genders, with higher i.q. and income kids called first; sasha and malia obama can be #1 and #2.