I have one in 30-30. It is a less- than-moa shooter. The trigger is a little heavy and the hammer fall always enters into the equation. I have killed several deer with it out to 168 yards.

You did not "seen" anything, you "saw" it.
A "creek" has water in it, a "crick" is what you get in your neck.
Liberals with guns are nothing but hypocrites.