Took my dad out for his first bull a couple years ago. He used his 6.5cm kimber hunter with factory, Hornady precision 143gr ELD-X. I spotted/guided him in from the opposite side of the valley and bull was taken just before end of shooting time.

Less than 200yds, two shots (told him to put an extra in it for insurance as we had zero prior experience using it).
First shot was perfect through both lungs but stopping in the chest cavity. I don’t remember if he hit heart.
Second shot while bull was running went through the liver and stopped somewhere in the body cavity.

Bull was pretty well gutted by the time I got across in the dark and it was the last night of his hunt so everything was rushed.



I had pretty much identical results (+similar distance/2 shots) from a .308win using the factory ELD-X 178gr on a black bear.

My take away is to avoid bone at all cost when using them.

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