Note that I said NF has no reticle I am interested in for hunting.
You need to live a little buddy. Have you even looked at their reticles? That MOAR works great on all targets of opportunity I've tried it on. Its not busy at all. I hate the hell out of "busy" reticles. As for Zeiss, I'm waiting patiently for my V4 4-16x44 to come in. They asked if I would be interested in the #94, which they call the ZMOA-2. Looks very similar to the MOAR, so I think I will like it. I do understand about not liking some reticles though.