He solicitated advice and got it. If he don't like it that is his problem. I been buying aluminum boats for awhile ,I could use a 12' and a 18' to round out my collection. Never have seen the Gregors around here I'm in solid Lund and Alumacraft country. Others like Mirrocraft , Starcraft, Sylvan, Lowe, G-3, Northwoods are also noted. Those guys and their comments about rough riding Jon boats are spot on. When I get around to buying a 12' foot v hull it will be cheap priced or I'll walk, like I said their utility is limited. I like canoes to made out of aluminum, Grumman specially a 15' double end, a 17' dbl end, and a sq stern 17'. Also have a 17' Lund dbl end , am looking for a 19' aluminum freighter canoe with the wide square stern for an outboard. Anybody know of a Grumman sport boat or a Lund Snipe for sale I'm all ears ...mb (fug jo bitme isn't talking of banning boats yet)...mb


" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "