No luck with it and I think I’ve tried it all including fresh piss from doe and buck bladders .
Was working in Pa some years ago snd came across a deer farm . Got to shooting the bull with the owner and thought I would ask him .
He didn’t fool with it anymore cause govt. stuck their nose in it and it wasn’t worth the hassle anymore. So I asked what he thought about using it and the old fellow replied “if it makes a fellow feel better using it , then I say use it”
With a smirk of a smile . That said it all fir me
Kenneth