Used to carry a 30 herrett in the high country in Se Alaskan would hunt with a friend, one would carry a big bore rifle the other a 14 inch TC. Killed a lot of deer with that pistol. Very accurate. I still have about 140 or so primed brass if you interested .It was never fire formed, I made them out of 30 30 and 32 special s as brass and traded the pistol in AK. I won’t be home for a week and a half I’ll look for loads but it’s been 35 years. It was a lot of fun you’ll like it