Used to catch bear and lion for clients, with hounds. They were treed, holed, or ledged up.
For bear,45lc, 41 or 44 mag , 30-30 better (more accuracy)
For lion 9mm, 357, 45lc. Even had a guy shoot one with 375H&H, pin hole in, pin hole out. Don't know why, but never had a one shot kill with 223.

Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"

Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."

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