I thought I had the problem solved with the new rings but was wrong. After researching the Vortex Hunter rings, I found numerous post about how they weren't for high recoiling rifles. I realize 6.5 Creedmoor don't have a lot of recoil. This Tikka t3x lite does have a little more recoil than my Savage had. Then I read where 3 or 4 people had problems with the rings shooting 308s. I took the rings back and put my Burris Signature Zee rings back on. I'm going to possibly, construct a DIY riser just to get me through Deer season next month. I don't think I need much if any rise it's debatable. I'm going to try shooting it without a riser first and see how my accuracy is.