I get what you say ShadeTree. I love those 85hpbt's and for a Gameking and they are tough. Tougher than even the 100 grain Pro Hunters but both were hard to find and a hot core seemed like a perfect alternative. I have tried some of the other plain Speers in the past. I think ...no..I DO..over analyze things I read here and I get in trouble trying to fix what ain't broke sometimes but hey....I am a reloader....isn't that what we do?

Case in point I was told my fine shooting 260Rem had too slow of a twist for those 140 grain bullets I was slinging so well. So I changed.. Regret it - those 6.5 Gamekings are the best and most consistent bullet I ever used. Doh!


When a country is well governed, poverty and a mean condition are something to be ashamed of. When a country is ill governed, riches and honors are something to be ashamed of
. Confucius