I jumped in with both feet when Michigan made straight wall 35 or larger caliber with a 1.8" maximum case.....
Called Cutting Edge Bullets back in 2014 had them sell me some of there 160 gr Raptors with out a sabot and loaded them in my 450 Bushmaster.....in a AR-15 with a 20" barrel 2700 fps shot 2 8 points the first season both were DRT at the shot safe pressure in a AR-15 just under 38'000 psi.....
For several years I've been loading for several bolt actions with the 160 gr Raptor just under 3000 fps with a 20" barrel no problem DRT just past 200 yards....
Shot a 600 lb dressed black bear with the load it rolled over and kicked its feet a couple times ......DRT.....
Over 20 bucks shot with Cutting Edge Bullets 160 gr. Raptors all but one was DRT that one ran 40 yards because of a extreme quartering shot.....
