Jmr a 405 gr 45-70 at 1200 fps will go thru a buffalo side to side and damn near thru them lengthwise.. the math on all the posts is bullcrap. Buffalo cows calve every other year. I've hunted buffalo / bison twice they are a unique animal with a distinct social order. When you shoot one and it finally goes down others will try to get it back up. While they are doing that you could put a pile of them on the ground. You shoot the lead cow and they will mill quite awhile that's how the hunters back then got a "stand". Wanton waste by native and white hunters played major cause in the quick demise of the herds. Disease from cattle.and environmental factors took there toll. Every year during spring runoff the Missouri River floated dead buffalo for weeks just from the ones that fell thru the the ice and drown. A lot of things contributed to the demise of the buffalo. The buffalo hunt ushered in the "industrial age". It was a Jew named Lowenstein who sent a couple hundred buffalo hides to Germany to see if they could be processed into good usable leather for belting . The kind of belts used to transfer power from the steam engine to rotating shafts to do lathe and mill work . Yeah a Jew doing the Jewish thing of making money just like the rest of the people working for a living back then . Damned few got rich from the hunt. The people who made the money were the end users just like today..mb


" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "