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I used to run labs when the waterfowl hunting was good. When it got lousy I switched to English setters and never looked back. My last two setters--- The blue belton)male) is a Decoverly dog, he tipped the scale at 100 lbs. The Orange Belton(female)m is frome from Laural Mt Kennel in the UP of Michigan. Both lived in the house and were fantastic hunters and great friends. I lost the Male several years back. The I ran the femal at my clubs annual youth phesant hunt in Dec and she made a lot of kidds happy by pointing a ton of ringnecks.