RAY,I dont know if your question about the GIBBS was rhetorical - if so,it was a good one -or if you really need data.The real casualty when the ax grinders weigh in on a thread is the valid questions which go un-answered.Many times the very person distorting the thread is the one with enough knowledge to answer the question.<P>As for the gibbs,I believe I saw data for it on SAEED's website.Try accuratereloading.com.I think that's it.
