For a "crap" cartridge, it has seen more meat and guts than most have. I'm not going to argue that it is the best round ever, but it is a lot better than what you're saying it is. It's about the same as me calling a .308, or the 30-06, crap and chitty.
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Last edited by Rman; 06/30/08.

You can run, but you'll just die tired.