i understand and i appreciate your honesty. i don't mind hunting hard. i plan to come on my own and go 1-1 with a guide. just want to make the most of it, may be my only chance. any other areas you would recommend. i have spoken to barbara and we had a very pleasant visit, i have no doubt they are first class and believe i would have a great time which is really the most important, but...i would like a big bull to hang on the wall to top it all off. thanks for all your advice.