well picked up a can to play with the rifle in question ruger #1 in 416 alaskan wich is basically the 450 necked down. 21 grains fit nicely and the recoil was very light with 300 grain jacked spitzers. I am looking forward to using this in the 348 winchester.

What you have done is not nearly as important as how you have done it!!!
The Old Fart 2008 A.D.