Regarding Kevin Gibson's 1st point in the lead posting to this thread which says: "1. The Browning Auto 5's bolt is almost all the way back before the shot leaves the barrel, proving it's working completely on the recoil force."

I am curious about this. The SAAMI approved pressure of a 12 guage shotshell is about 12,000 (14,000 for 3 1/2" shells). If the bolt is "almost all the way back before the shot leaves the barrel" (and shotshells are either plastic or cardboard with a metal head), there is certainly significant pressure remaining in the barrel (maybe 1-2,000 psi?).

Would not this blow out the side of the shell if the bolt was at the rear of the receiver and the shell unsupported? Not trying to start an argument, just learn.

Also, was it not Lee24 who claimed to have seen or owned an FN Model 70 Super Grade in 375 H&H Mag. 6-7 months ago, or was it someone else?