I took it apart and figured it out. Kimbers have some very nice triggers. Just for the heck of it I wanted to see how low(safely) the kimber trigger would go without making it go off by slaming the bolt or hitting the buttstock on the floor. It went very, very low, but for my enjoyment I only took the set screw back out about 3/4 of a full turn from where it was set from the factory. It's probably a 2.5# trigger now, very nice, no creep/travel. I figured from the factory it was around 4#. The action screw we're just a hair past snug. Now, I need to hit the range again to see how far off she is.