Thanks for all the inputs. I'll look more closely at Brits since they appear to be the odds on favority here. I have never been impressed by the Brits I've hunted over but have to say neither were well trained. Also am considering a small munsterlander.
Jetjockey - I consider 50-200 yards a close working dog. My english pointer seemed to always be 400-1000 yards away and it got to be a bit much covering that much distance in Idaho rough country to reach the point. The Pointer was a magnificent runner and the most stylish pointer but she tolerated me and I want a dog that is part of the family.
