I've played with a bunch of stuff, but as said before 7828 is tough to beat. HOWEVER, I did recently switch my 140 loads to Win 780. I can get a bit over 3200 with it with 140s, and average 3515 with 120 TTSXs. I use 4831 mostly with the 100s (mid 3700s). Taken two elk with 140 Partitions and the 120 TTSX, deer with 140 Partitions and antelope with 100 gr Ballistic Tips (shot one in the neck and the head came off).


"For some unfortunates, poisoned by city sidewalks ... the horn of the hunter never winds at all" Robert Ruark, The Horn of the Hunter