Back before I found out that you had to have a TTSXAccuInterbond wonder-bullet to kill an ungulate, I shot several elk with 130 grain Bronze Points, fired at around 3000 fps from a 270 Win. They all took a single bullet in the lungs, ran off a short distance, and died. A young bull, an older cow, and a yearling, I believe. While not my first choice these days, they seemed to work just fine.