by the way phil i have had a lot of exprience with the lott as i bought one from jack lott when i met him at champlins years ago the found he developed i lke better is the 460 guns and ammo but i will say this i have never had to stop an elephant ot hippo in bad situation but from what i have seen i will stick with my 458 winchester i seem to shoot it better and recover from the recoil to get second shot off. iam not trying to look good here but the 458 winchester is almost plesant to shoot and the lott will set you back off you dentures. no muzzle brakes for me i just bought a 375 price was real good model 70 with a brake so off to brockmans it will go to have a thread protector installed and the brake will set on the shelf huh is not a good answer for anyone