I saw a guy at the range a while back that had a custom gun built with the rem 700 action and that gun was great it had a heavy barrel and the gun it self was very heavy but the guy let me shoot it one time and with that 800 dollar leupold scope on it my first and only shot took out the center x and here was no recoil that i felt, could not think of a sweeter long range varmit gun.<P>I know the feeling of not knowing if you will get a good shooter or not, I have been very lucky in that all my guns will group 1 1/2 or less other then my 22 mag and 30-30 at 100 yards and the 30-30 and 22 mag will usually do 2 to 2 1/2 groups at 100 yards.<P>have a 45-70 that puts the bullets into a ragged hole at 100 yards, my 270 win is a good shooter and my 7mm rem mag will do under 1 1/2".<P>sounds like your not real thrilled with the sendero.<P>best shooter i even owned was over 25 years ago and that was a rem 700 which i could hit nail heads with at 100 yards, i sold it threw the years and to this day i have never had anything shoot as well.<P>the quality of guns has gone down over the years and to buy a good one to day is a risk to say the least.<P>would like a nice bench gun or varmit gun, when my son gets older i will probaly buy him a rem mountain rifle or some type of light weight rifle for hog hunting with me, maybe a 260 rem or a 243.<P>my hog guns are a 30-30 and 45-70 and a 45 colt, and during archery just a bow, jennings buckmaster 2000 that i just bought about a year ago i retired a old bear white tail hunter and I love my recurves but how can you argue with the accuracy you get today with the new bows.