What? Don't you guys read the internet? You can't kill elk with a 30-30! Of course back before any of the old, and mostly now dead and gone, cowboys and woodsmen that I knew as a kid had a chance to play with a computer and partake of internet wisdom, they were too ignorant to know you can't kill elk with a 30-30 so they just did it anyway. I remember several of them saying they didn't care for the '06 because it kicked too hard and those old winchester and savage lever guns were just so much lighter and handier. Use this round on elk at your own risk! (just be sure you bring a sharp knife)