I had some 170 FN Noslers, they were a boat tail believe it or not. They were/are very accurate in my 300F. Absolutely perfect for deer. Blasted right through, expanded and smashed everything inside , small expanded type hole going out. 20 yard flop on a very big 8pt.-17 inch inside spread. 42 grains of reloader 15 in a Rem. case, fed 210 primer. They looked very weird cause they stuck out of the case a whole lot--and the cannelure was way out. 2.60" OAL. I think they would be great for black bear or elk.
