my savage 24d is full choked . i patterned fed #2 3 inchers and remington #3 2 3/4 out to 40 yards and easily bagged coyotes at that range and they are tough. killed over 250 mostly with a rifle. i have a citori grade v now and it has ic and mod. will need to watch my range is all with the more open choke. i do have a pack of 5, winchester #3 3 inchers i got sometime. thanks. roninflag