Let me enlighten people on a little bit about the savage and or TC. The 10ml was born about 15min down the road for me by Henry Ball which had help alone the way, basically there were guys building them locally here before Savage bought his patent. Those very same other local guys building Remingtons, Brownings, Savages and TC Encores smokeless did extensive testing at the range. Mainly doing remote test like firing all the guns from a clamped down base from a safe distance and never had a problem with any, even the TC's. All smokeless muzzleloaders are made unsafe by guy wanting to pus the bar and go above and beyond recommended book loads and the ones that get double loaded. I have seen 2 Savages double loaded in the last 2 hrs and all it did was bulge the barrel a small amount in one place.
