I regularly use 190's in both .30/30s and .303 Savages, albeit they are cast lead bullets though. Cast soft and driven @ 2000fps, the wide flat points on them expand like crazy and "way over penetrate". If I were to use that combo on larger game, I would merely cast them from a harder alloy to gain more penetration. No need for expensive premium bullets here.


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