Va, I Turkey hunt in the big timber mostly, straight up and straight down kind of terrain, the ranges I kill Mr. Tom even with a rifle are usually no more than 60 yds or so, most have been killed within easy shotgun range, I just like to hunt with a rifle sometimes as I am truly a "Rifle Whore" at heart (not crazy about shotguns) I don't even use a shotgun to squirrel hunt the early season, I use a rimfire, I haven't hunted in the Spring with a rifle in several years and kinda miss it.................Hillbilly.