For some reason I've always done a "palm, hook, push" without it ever being taught to me. It might be because when I first started I was too little and weak to get a good grip on the bolt knob with my fingers.


Not a real member - just an ordinary guy who appreciates being able to hang around and say something once in awhile.

Happily Trapped In the Past (Thanks, Joe)

Not only a less than minimally educated person, but stupid and out of touch as well.