I was skeptical about the Montana but got the itch and tried one. All other rifles now sit in the safe when it comes time to hunt. Handles and shoots like a dream. Mine's an 84m and weighs just a tick over 6lb. That includes scope, sling and 4 rounds of ammo. Shoots 180/185s at mid-2700s to 2800. Playing with another load using 160s at ~3000 fps. I anticipate that will kill anything I intend to hunt, and it would take a lot of coin to get a lighter rifle. If I switch to a 6x36 it will be under 6lbs full up ready to go.