I just finished my 50th hunting season. I am currently using a small Badlands for a day pack but it doesn't have the size to use as a effecient meat pack. Over the years I have tried about every combination, large internal frame packs, and external frame packs. Both styles are bulky and get in the way especially when timber hunting. We are spiking in about 5 miles this next fall in Idaho for elk. I will strip the Badlands down and lash it on the out side of the bag on my external frame pack. When I get camp up, I will reload it. Only way I have found to do it.