Started in 1970, have 46 in 41 years, all in Wyoming, about 60 percent bulls because you couldn't kill a cow in the area I hunted for 25 years. Killed three 6 X 7 bulls, numerous raghorns. When you get to be a smart old elk hunter you don't care if you ever backpack another big bull and no longer want to eat old elk so tough you can stand a fork up in the gravy.