Yeah, the Creedmoor holds 5grs more of RE17(up to the neck), but once you fireform the 250 brass its almost identical from my findings yesterday morning. To my understanding the 6.5 creed is basically a 250 case blown out to creedmoor specs with the 30 degree shoulder, and longer OAL, 6 creed is 1.917", 250 is 1.902".