I don' know about the powders you asked about or which 180 you are going to shoot. I load 180 Accubonds behind 80.5 grains H1000. It is loaded to sammi specs for lenght. Four diffremt rifles all shot this load well. All under a moa, two Rem., one Winchester and a Savage. My not be the load for your gun but the load kills elk and shoots between 3050 and 3100 fps depending on what gun it is shot out of.
